Science, religion, and whatever else is on my mind...
Not really most major religions don't reject "race-mixing" at best they might reject "faith-mixing" and all the mainstream major monotheistic religions reject marriages that are not based on gender mixing. At least Catholic don't. After all South Americans are ethnically a mix of Spanish, African and Native peoples largely because there is no racial prohibition in marriage.Besides this whole gay marriage thing is a fraud if you ask me. I don't think gays have really sat down to contemplate the implications of pursuing "gay marriage". Because it seems to me being both gay and for "gay marriage" is tantamount to saying "You straight people are the norm and normal & I am neither till I imitate you as much as possible and gain your approval rather then pursue & value relationship conventions within the gay sub-culture."Anyway 40 years from now the Church and mainstream orthodox monotheistic religions will still not recognize gay marriage. The question is how will fanatics who do treat them?http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/301641/canadian-crackdown-michael-corenhttp://www.lifesite.net/news/christian-psychotherapist-loses-case-after-gay-sting-operationSo much for the myth of liberal civil liberty.
Once gays were reviled for their alternative lifestyle. Now you ridicule them for wanting a "normal" lifestyle. It seems they just can't win.Ben, Ben, your bigotry is showing. Some gays may want the lifestyle you so charmingly call "gay sub-culture." Others may not. Who are you to tell them what they should want?Imagine we pass a law saying Jews can only live in a certain region of my city. When they complain, I respond that they should be happy because they are free to "pursue & value relationships within the Jewish sub-culture."It's the same argument, Ben.
@Prof Robert>Once gays were reviled for their alternative lifestyle. Now you ridicule them for wanting a "normal" lifestyle. It seems they just can't win.Actually I got the idea from reading a gay critic of the gay marriage movement. I guess this is a sign of latent homophobia on your part Prof. You fear gays who don't fit your ideological procrustean bed eh?;-) LOL!>Ben, Ben, your bigotry is showing. Some gays may want the lifestyle you so charmingly call "gay sub-culture." Others may not. Who are you to tell them what they should want?Ah the mindless charge of "Bigotry"! LOL Typical reactionary dogmatic liberal!;-) It's about as effective as people who label all political critics of the President as "racists". People can want what they want but I don't have to call it good nor refrain from explaining why I don't think it is good.>Imagine we pass a law saying Jews can only live in a certain region of my city. When they complain, I respond that they should be happy because they are free to "pursue & value relationships within the Jewish sub-culture."I really don't see any moral or practical quivalence between religious and racial segregation vs saying two men can’t marry? I can’t marry myself. Sure I could do some sort of ceremony, invite guests and call myself my own husband. I could also try to shame people who thought it was wrong or flaky to automarry by calling them bigots. But in the end of the day I can’t marry myself. Now you might retort “But any type of marriage is a relationship between separate people!”. Really? Who are you to impose on me this idea marriage is a relationship between separate people?Inter-racial marriage was thought wrong because it was thought to be like marrying another species like an animal. This is wrong. But gay marriage isn’t like beastality. It’s more like automarriage & thus not logical.
"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."From Loving v. Virginia, 1967.If history tells us anything, it tells us that people who pretend a god exists, and also pretend to know what that god wants, look like total jackasses within a few decades. We can expect the same with same-sex marriage.
Accept BI that ruling is a late Protestant American novelty not an ancient Christian view.It's repellant to both natural Law and Divine Revelation. All races by definition would have come from Adam & Eve thus every race is kin to the other. Thus there is no reason why one son of Adam can't marry another daughter of Eve barring religion(i.e. the NT councils strongly against marriage to non-believers & Judaism forbids it outright).
"All races by definition would have come from Adam & Eve"I rest my case.